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Deborah Richards

Former Diversity & Inclusion Leader for the UK and Ireland - IBM

“When you're bringing people with you and organisational change, it is head, hand and heart. You have to understand it intellectually. You have to be able to demonstrate that it will work, but you also have to believe in it.”

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Joanne Conway

Deputy Head of Diversity & Inclusion - EY UK&I

“Creating a wide sense of belonging can become a competitive advantage for any company and help create diversity and inclusion.”

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Vicky Bawa

Head of Diversity and Inclusion - BAE Systems

“Keeping an open mind, being curious, remaining authentic and listening to our employees helps in making inclusive-based decisions based on employee insight.”

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Kei-Retta

Head of Diversity, Equity, Inclusion and Belonging - CLIC Sargent

“By acknowledging past injustices, by being honest about where we are and what we have done, that’s when healing can really come, that’s the only we can really move forward - the benefits outweigh the risks.”

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Bola Gibson

Head of Inclusion and CSR - Osborne Clarke

“When you think about all that energy that people are putting into just fitting into an environment where they don’t feel included, that is energy and effort that your business is not getting. So, it is incredibly important that people feel included.”

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Bhavik Pancholi

Pioneering D&I Activist and Consultant

“The roadmap to inclusion and diversity is about progress. It's about moving forward. It's about changing and making change one conversation at a time.”

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Geoffrey Williams

Global Head of Diversity, Equity and Inclusion – Dr Martens

“Remain true to yourself and your values. Do right by the people you are supporting and working with. Be responsible for change in everything you are doing.”

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Annika Allen

Co-Founder of The Black Magic Awards & Content Manager for Global Diversity and Inclusion - Barclays

“Don’t be afraid of the word “No”. It’s just a few letters. The word no could just mean “not right now” or “talking to the wrong person”. Learn to advocate for yourself, speak on the value of your worth, don’t doubt yourself, know and push for what you are worth and go for the job that you want.”

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Richard Pickard

Founder - Inclusive Search

“The data is in now and we know now that diverse companies commercially outperform their non-diverse competitors.”

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Lucy Adler

Head of D&I, Commercial Banking - Lloyds Banking Group

“You cannot have a D&I target without having something sitting beneath that to back it up.”

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Andrew Osayemi

Creator and Producer of Meet The Adebanjos, Inspirational Author 

“Diversity and Inclusion takes time. Work has to be done internally in the culture of the firms where people are more accepting of people from different backgrounds.”

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Reg Amoah

Diversity & Inclusion Lead - Omnicom Media Group

“Open your mind and be open to engaging people from a different background because that enriches and informs you. It makes the inclusion work easier because you’ve got a wide understanding.”

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Hannah Awonuga

Founder of Rarity London career development services

“What fuels me with D&I is about inclusion. It’s about making sure that at every single level, we see people that look like us, that have commonalities that we can share, have the same lived experience.”

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Abram Tilling

Midlands managing director for commercial and corporate banking - NatWest

“I would want to see a fully diverse organisation where you can look across the organisation and see people who look like you in senior roles. You see a diverse group of people who represent the communities that they live in, and this would be a really good place.” 

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Tiger de Souza MBE

People Engagement Director - National Trust

“We've almost dropped the 'D'. For us, it's all about Inclusion. If you create a really stong and inclusive culture then diversity will happen as a result.” 

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Sharon Rai

Diversity & Inclusion Partner, Commercial Banking - NatWest

“Leaders have the ability to influence and driver culture and behaviour. Working with leaders so they can understand the impact that they can have and the positive influence they can make is important.” 

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Selina Flavius

Best Selling Author, Speaker, Finance Coach and Founder - Black Girl Finance

"We are not all homogeneous, we are different, and we need to embrace those differences, and provide services and media around those differences to make things more diverse and inclusive.” 

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Asif Sadiq MBE

Senior Vice President, Head of Equity & Inclusion International - Warner Media

“We need to go beyond box-ticking D&I. What achieves a sense of belonging is when we start looking at authentic identities, the intersectionality and what is important to each individual.” 

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Michael Duberry

Former Professional Footballer and Founder - Made Leaders

“Equity is the key in reaching equality. We need to go beyond symbolic gestures. We need more action to sustain momentum."

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Clinton Raghnal

Director of Commercial Banking, Hertfordshire - NatWest

“Having allies and mentors s critical and having trust in leaders who hold an element of power but recognise that change or diversity adds value to the organisational proposition gives the workforce hope that they can be the best that they can be, that they can come to work just as themselves. It’s important to motivate and give trust to the workforce.”

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Pam Sheemar

Career Acceleration Programme Pilot Lead & Global Co-Chair Multicultural Network - NatWest

“Diversity is something that is really good for the boardroom not only from a “right-thing-to-do perspective” but also in creating a more innovative organisation, creates higher profits and overall, more diversity of thought” 

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Jenny Garrett OBE CInstLM FRSA

Award-Winning Executive Coach, Leadership Development Specialist and Author - Reflexion Associates Ltd

"What gets measured gets done. So if you don't put a target out there, you're probably not going to make any progress."

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Richard Odufisan

Manager, Deloitte Consulting and Black Network Co-Chair

“It's not necessarily about taking pieces of the pie away from others. It's about working together to make more pie." 

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Nzinga Orgill

Founder RaCExpert Ltd

"Race Equality is part of an organisations fabric. It should not be a bolt-on to DE&I".

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Javed Thomas

Founder The Collaboratory and Co-Founder, Race Equality Matters UK

“Think about what your organisation is doing to tackle race equality. We need more action. The time is now.” 

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Ivié Itoje

Anti-Racist Expert, Flair Impact

"If you don't have the climate for change already, it's very difficult to make any changes, and this starts with senior leaders putting Race Equality at the of their agenda." 

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Marteka Swaby

Founder, Benevolent Health

“We focus to much on absenteeism, but the bigger problem is presenteeism. Employers should  be aware of early warning signs of burnout and mental health issues to protect  the wellbeing of their staff.” 

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Melanie Eusebe MBE

I&D Lead for Accenture Europe and UK/I, Founder of the Black British Business Awards, Professor, Author. 

“DEI is truly a change management capability and should be treated as one of the primary risk factors for an organisation.” 

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Ammo Talwar MBE

CEO Punch Records and Chairman, UK Music Diversity Taskforce

“Diversity should be an input into your organisations growth rather than output.” 

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Rachel Billington

Head of Equity, Diversity and Inclusion (ED&I) Europe and India at AECOM

“Until we have more women in senior leadership roles, we will never close the gap.” 

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Sanchia Alasia

Acting Group Director of Equality, Diversity and Inclusion, London South Bank University

“We need to have leaders who not just understand diversity, but who actively engage and role model.” 

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Henrique Zanin

Diversity, Equity and Inclusion Manager at Wayfair

“We leverage the knowledge of our ERG's and support them to help us shape our business.” 

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Jessica Rogers

Business and Leadership Coach 

“To be a true ally, you have to understand and recognise your privilege.” 

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Isa Mutlib

Founder of Careers Camp and BAME Apprenticeship Alliance

“We don't have enough role models for young people from underrepresented communities” 

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Greg Turner

Inclusion Manager at Rolls-Royce

“We need to look internally as well as externally to support our efforts in inclusive hiring and build leadership accountability.” 

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Sharlene John

Head of Recruitment at Selfridges 

"My purpose is to be part of the change that we need to see for the next generation."

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Sandra Sheahan

Diversity, Inclusion & Accessibility Director at Merlin Entertainments

"It's as much about creating the right environment and culture and then signalling there is space for success". 

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Dr Shanéa Thomas

LGBTQ+ Training Specialist and assistant Research Professor at University of Maryland School of Public Health 

"There's always going to be opportunity for us to mess up, but I also think there's an opportunity for us to also not cause as much harm". 

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Lizzie Penny & Alex Hirst 

Co-founder and Joint CEO of Hoxby LTD

"What has gone from being a fun conversation in the power of how we can change the world has been truly life changing for me personally". 

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Ayo Barley 

Managing Director of Bakare Barley LTD 

" If we look back, there's always resistance to change, to advancement of this agenda, so I think for leaders listening, it's about understanding where that resistance is rooted and being willing to have conversations through education about actually why it's important to keep doing this work for the future of your organisation, but also for the well-being of your staff and your customers as well". 

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Sofi Musleh 

Head of DEI for LGBTQIA+ and Gender,

Novartis Ireland Limited 

"I have lots of love for Gen Z, because I think they are a generation that is as angry and rightly so, and that believes in equity, even if that equity does not affect them". 

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Katrin Terwiel

Co-Vice President, DE&I, Deutsche Telekom and Co-host Deep Shit Talks Podcast

“Stay pragmatic and look for the one little hole that you can go through to open the doors that you need to open to push this topic forward in your own area of influence".

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Ayse Semiz-Ewald

Co-Vice President, DE&I Deutsche Telekom and Founder of Jobmagnet Karrierecoaching

“We decided to put inclusion at the heart of everything that we do. That's our end goal, and ideally, belonging happens afterwards". 

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Charlene Oke

Senior Diversity & Inclusion Partner at LexisNexis Risk Solutions 

“If you've got a real passion to work in this space, then continue with it, but just make sure you always think about your mental health."

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Dr Lindy-Ann Alfred 

Lead Consultant/Senior Consultant |Equality, Diversity and Inclusion at Advance HE 

“It is being unafraid to make mistakes, being open to challenge & being able to take acknowledgement when it comes".

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Jatin Patel 

Inclusion & Diversity Director at Rugby Football Union 

“My job is all about growth and opportunity and getting more people feeling, seeing, experiencing rugby and hopefully falling in love with it to hopefully stick around and wanting to play for the long term". 

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Mikal Anderson

Found of Protocol Entities 

"I'm very unapologetic about being equity-centered and driven and really driving towards results that create opportunities for social and economic mobility for all people.

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Nesli Ercan 

Global (DEI) Partnerships Leader 

“DEI work is not a passion work, it is a profession, because passion, if it is just passion work, it can be like silver bullets and then making all changes. But we really need to work hard, learn a lot, and then change will hopefully happen. 

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Christina Murdock

Diversity, Inclusion and Wellbeing Coach, Consultant and Trainer 

“It's about fighting against things that have dehumanised us and have disconnected us and that continue to promote disconnection and dehumanising and keeping us separate, keeping us fighting for power instead of sharing power, keeping us confused about who's vulnerable and who needs the most help. 

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Tolu Farinto

Founder of Limitless, Partner, Change-maker & Ethnicity and Social Mobility Specialist Lead of Utopia 

"Coming into the diversity of space, I realised that there were so many different lived experiences outside of my own that existed within the workplace context that I had to advocate for and in that, it gave me a different survivor's mission because there's an element, of you know, I do experience some privileges and where I do. how do i leverage those to create change? 

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Dr Noémie Hermeking

Inclusion and Diversity Officer, FortSchritt Bayern, Anthropologist, Researcher, Author and Keynote Speaker 

“It is less about holding up a diversity quota, but it's, you know, essentially how we actually include underserved communities that have been on the margins for far too long". 

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Iffy Onuora

Head of EDI, Professional Pathways, Premiere League 

“I think your life story gives you a certain amount of resilience. I do not know any person of colour who's not at this stage and hasn't had to come through some difficult moments and situations” 

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